Welcome back to the Create More Possibilities blog! My name’s Petra and I’m a Liberatory Leadership Coach, Facilitator, Radical Social Worker and Emergent Strategist. I help marginalized leaders cultivate liberatory power so they can lead by example with MORE purpose and trust and LESS pressure and anxiety of perfection (read: White Supremacy culture).  

This transcription is from an IG Live Series called #Onwership that Tiffany Hervas of Resilient Wealth created to feature entrepreneurs and their journey to entrepreneurship.

In 30 minutes, I shared the highs and lows of being an entrepreneur, why I started my company and what suggestions I have for anyone starting entrepreneurship.

Rather watch the video? Check it out on Instagram.

Don’t have Instagram? I’ve added the video at the end of the transcription.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS
people, entrepreneurship, feel, home, Petra, business, radical transparency, entrepreneur, learning, figure, journey, work, support, folks, resonated, question, thinking, leadership, shit, coach

SPEAKERS
Tiffany Hervas, Petra Vega

Tiffany Hervas 00:12
Okay, so we’re gonna start this again. And that is cool too we are starting again what a journey. Okay. popped up. Yeah, we did.

Petra Vega 00:52
Yes. Can you hear me?

Tiffany Hervas 00:53
I can hear you. Yes. Very good. I’m like what a journey, this whole process is all the things.

Petra Vega 01:03
Is it that first one, the first one that you’re inviting people to?

Tiffany Hervas 01:06
Oh yeah, this is the first one I’ve inviting people to. That’s why I’m like, what is happening on this platform? How do I name what we’re doing?

Petra Vega 01:15
But it’s Yeah. Okay. I like an option to like, name and put details and all that stuff when you’re gonna save it. So if you didn’t do that already, it’ll just keep the title that you made it though.

Tiffany Hervas 01:30
Okay, because this didn’t have an option for a title. That’s why I’m like, where, where’s everything? So I’m going to be our hashtagging ownership. This is our common goal. Um, there you go. I’m learning.

Petra Vega 01:50
Yeah, and I can show you I’m like, I think I know what happens. I’ll show you later.

Tiffany Hervas 01:56
Good, good. Yeah, yeah, cuz I can just like swipe left. But we’re here in the learning process. I just felt like, I just felt like why not have conversations with some dope, business owners, entrepreneurs. It is entrepreneur month in the month of November. And so what better way to crack my new experience working with this IG than just having a conversation about my hobbies? Well, my friends

Petra Vega 02:22
that’s what I did. I was like, if I’m gonna be on here, I’m going to talk to my friends.

Tiffany Hervas 02:26
Right? And we’re going to chat it all the way up. Yeah. up about, it’s easier that way. And it’s more comfortable. And I’m so grateful that you were here with me with us. Just sharing your story on how you came into ownership, being an entrepreneur, what that journey looks like. So wherever you want to start. Your Thank you for saying yes. So tell me, tell me about Petra. Oh, you have to?

Petra Vega 02:53
Well, we have to Well, I sent you the gift and I was like if people are gonna watch this on the replay. If you’re watching replay comment, hashtag replay them like we do in the best of what we got over here. And so that’s kind of the where the conversation is coming with. Thank you, Micah.

Tiffany Hervas 03:08
I resonate with so much so much of like, Listen, this is what I’m showing you guys. This is what we’re going to work with. So yeah, feel free. Anybody who’s watching, feel free to chat. Tell us about your experience. use that hashtag. Like we’d love to connect with. More folks. Let me see if I can like, invite people. I don’t know if like, let’s do that, too. But yeah, go for it. I just sent invites.

Petra Vega 03:37
I’m trying to figure out how to get all this text off my face. Not that I want to sit here and stare at my face, but I would like to know what it’s doing.

Tiffany Hervas 03:46
Like there’s a lot of text on your face. Right?

Petra Vega 03:49
Okay, this is just, this is just what happens when your guests alright, that’s fine.

Tiffany Hervas 03:53
Yeah. Yeah. When you’re a guest. It takes I want to see a face.

Petra Vega 03:59
I know. I can see my face. Right. But I can’t see this. I know what I look like. I think I mean, well, sometimes. I don’t know if you have that moment. But Michael talking about this, you’d be looking at me like that’s what I looked like. I had that moment sometimes.

Tiffany Hervas 04:11
Morning, I was on Microsoft teams having an appointment. I was just like, where am I on the screen? Like, why is it jumping around the place before it’s appearing? Then I’m like, like, pixely I’m like, I can’t concentrate. If I can’t see my face either.

Petra Vega 04:29
Oh, yeah. So I’m gonna just trust and like whatever comes as what was needed. But where are we starting? What’s the question which one we talk about?

Tiffany Hervas 04:37
So the question is, tell me about you. And tell me about your business, the name of your business and how you came into business?

Petra Vega 04:46
Yeah. So the name of my businesses create more possibilities. I really want to provide support and spaces via coaching and consulting right now. For for more possibilities. What we have Now, right, like more possibilities for revolution and joy and healing and freedom. And you know, and now we have similar backgrounds around social work and community organizing. But I think the thing that kind of sets me apart from other leadership coaches, I really learned about being a leader from the people, right? It’s like, what does it mean to come up the ranks or develop skills or try to get people to come together or try to work towards a particular goal. When you don’t have it’s not a role. It’s not a formal role, but it’s like, it’s a desire, it’s a lot. It, it’s, it’s a calling. And so I really want to work with people who feel called and compelled to, like, make change and care about social justice and transformation. And what’s important that that I’ve, like, seen so many leaders in more formal settings, like, has to do it alone, or feel like they have to do it alone. And so I think when I offered to you that I like, I don’t know where we’re going, or how it’s gonna go. But that’s also part of my flavor of leadership. And I’m like, I think that we particularly for those of us that are marginalized, and I’m like, only we can create the freedom that we’re looking for. And that will benefit the most people in the US on the margins to like, see it and to move forward with it. And we like to hear right? That I’m just thinking about the leading into that vulnerability, and that transparency is an essential piece of it, right? And so like, what is true about right now, and right now, entrepreneurship is a struggle. And I’m just like, and so my experience has just been, where’s the honesty? Where’s the realness about where we actually are? Because I’m like, that will allow us to go where we want to

Tiffany Hervas 06:40
go. And honestly, for folks who are just who are just logging in, we are in conversation with Petra, liberty, leadership coach, with create more possibilities, doing phenomenal work. And also, right, like you said, it’s a struggle. So tell me a little bit more about the struggle? And also tell me what motivates you every single day in the struggle?

Petra Vega 07:03
Yeah. So I think, struggle. And I think maybe this is another question that’s meant to answer this question with some other questions that you weren’t thinking about that. I’m just like, if I would have known if I would have known that. I think that something I would offer, in hindsight, right is like, I think the thing that particularly for those of us that want to challenge the status quo, want to do things differently, want to show up in a different kind of way and want to do some radical shit in the world, that I’m like, we really need some financial support, because that should just makes it more complicated, right, that like to have to do this kind of work in particular. And if you’re not selling that, like this is all I know, is like a lie to you that we’re not selling. Like, we bought to have the 37 figures and this white picket fence and this happy home and all this like capitalist white hetero standard of success. I’m like, that’s not what we’re selling. And that’s what a lot of people may be selling, right? We’re like, now like, how do we get to the people? What does collaboration look like? What’s the gray? What’s the both? And can we say with complexity, like that stuff is much harder. And so I think when you’re trying to do that kind of work, and you’re trying to eat, that stuff is extra hard. It’s I think, having like, and I’ve heard this more and more now in the places that I’m moving towards, and being more real about this to be like, don’t leave your day job so quickly, right? That I’m like, or move or change the kind of work that you’re doing until this if you want to have your own company, or business is something that you’re like, Oh, I could do, I could do and I could but I still get to eat if this doesn’t make me money, that I’m like the people that I’m like, learning from now that I’m like, oh, that stuff will really clouded your judgment. And so that’s something that I’m looking at now. And I’m like, How do I not how to make sure that that doesn’t cloud my judgment as I’m trying to do like this work in the world is one and then I think something else in but I say is another struggle is that everyone’s got the magic pill. Everyone’s like you what you got, I got I got it. And I think that the the thing that is seductive about that right that we can get stuck in is when we don’t know how we actually make change. That’s the thing that I’m obsessed with is like, what’s the right sauce was the right temperature? How much like what if someone needed someone who’s like, supported the leadership of tons and tons of people that I’m like, but what you need though, right? And some people need like, Oh, here’s like a particular scale. Some people like you just need people to get the fuck out of your way. Other people may need like, you’re not you need people around you. Just like what’s the ingredient? And for you to have a good sense of like, how do you actually make change, like when you want to shift something when you want to to transform? How do you do that? Because you’ve done it, you made it to this point, you made it to 30 and 40 and 50 and 20. You made it you made this you got alive, you’re still alive. Do that. So thinking about that as you’re looking for like, Okay, but what business support do I need? What personal support do I need, like really thinking about like, how do you make change versus like, are you getting in Lost in the sauce with like, look at all the pretty colors and look at the images, which I’m like, I also can get stuck, it’d be like, that’s nice how they do that, then it’s a different sound. So I’ll say those things which think

Tiffany Hervas 10:13
I’m resonating with a lot of it in terms of aligning yourself in what you are putting out there in the world, and also being able to eat at the same time and not working out of that scarcity of like, I need to pay my bills. And also, I still want to do my passion, work that to affect change. Right? And the other factor of it is how, like, what ingredient do you need? So I think that’s a really important question for entrepreneurs or folks that are seeking to get into business of like, what are some of the things that you should consider before jumping into this? I bullied jumping into the deep end of the pool? Are you going to stick your big toe in like, we’re like, what are we? What are we doing? And how needed? Is that service that you’re looking to bring? And how can the uniqueness of you truly bring that and not only that, who can you connect with and having that can either elevate or continue to motivate? Like, there’s a lot of stuff that I think I often hear entrepreneurs are just like, yeah, I forget this job. I can’t stand X, Y, and Z. I’m out. I’m out to do it on my own. We want to go off and like whatever, but Right, like, go off and be great. Yes, yeah. For you go ahead and take that deep connection. Get your ingredients to make whatever you’re going to mix up that little sauce, so that you have cooking up, get that together before you actually take that the journey because this journey is is different. It’s different levels of support and resources around them. And access to certain things. It makes it that much more difficult. Yeah. Well, complex,

Petra Vega 11:58
complex. Yeah, I think it’s complicated. And the thing that like they got me with this was like, it’s easy. You could like you could do it. Right. And if someone if you like, you tired of being sick and tired, you’d like it to be easy. I want ease. Or like when you

Tiffany Hervas 12:13
schedule my own free time. So send me that.

Petra Vega 12:18
Right. And I’m like, and I as someone that thinks it’s like I talked about, like, are you alive and awake in the world that I’m like, when I was listening to that stuff, I was not awake. I was like dormant. I was like, Where, where can I move quickly? Where I’m like, that’s, that’s not part of my ethics. And I’m like, I’m when I work with people. I’m like, I’m not trying to move quickly. I’m trying to move deeply, right? Because I’m like, you gotta you do.

Tiffany Hervas 12:41
What happened? What was something you said? Like spell that? Oh, okay. Oh, my God. It’s me. Chai tea just gets me through things, you know?

Petra Vega 12:55
Yeah. But I think again, just being like, I this was another thing that I was thinking about. Right? It’s just asking questions, right, that I think that I’m someone who’s already naturally curious. And so I’m, I already have like, lots of questions. And so I think that just really leaning into that if you’re thinking about, like, what are the supports that I need? If someone is offering something to you for thinking about joining a program of sorts, ask a fuck ton of questions, get to experience and be in that space with that first thing. And I think it’s like, giving yourself permission. If you feel like because I know some people don’t feel it because you know, traveling depression, like can hijack this thing. But if your gut is like, Oh, no about this, let’s listen to that gut and like just mosey on away from that, like, particular person service shit, even if it’s me, like, I might make you feel a kind of way that doesn’t say what you got special by, like, go go where you need to go. But like, trust that and so I think that’s something else that like we can, we can not recognize those moments to are like, Well, I’m not sure. And it seems like this is the right thing. And I want I want what they have. And it’s like, I don’t know that that’s possible, like people are different. So it’s gonna be like, can you be open to like, oh, it’s never gonna be the same way that someone is offering it to you. Or if you have like, if you saw maybe you have an entrepreneur friend or someone that you’re like, Damn, how did they do it? I’m gonna do the same exact steps. It’s the same recipe but you ain’t the same hands like it’s just never Miko, my partner. We talked about this. So she tries to make what is it printed and she like has taken videos of mommy cooking it and seasoning it and hasn’t done videos all the time. Mommy does the same thing. But mommy ascend before. She has the hands of a 74 year old who’s been making but Neil forever versus my beloved, who has been making a need for like five acres.

Tiffany Hervas 14:42
This and a handful of that and like

Petra Vega 14:47
it’s just different. It’s I think, for me, it’s someone who like, wants to be of service to people that I’m like, Oh, here’s the places that I can help you even check me right and ask me questions around like, how long did that take? I’m like, let me be for real right and have some I’d be willing to see if someone will be for real with you versus like, no, I got it, whatever you need.

Tiffany Hervas 15:07
And I think sometimes, I think sometimes there’s a certain persona perfectionism of like, I’m going to show you a it’s all roses and Canva and the pastels and the things right, like, okay, but tell me the thing about

Petra Vega 15:20
Canva Tiffany, I love Kim.

Tiffany Hervas 15:25
But everybody and I respect the hustle to what it is, is like, is like people want to show you one sidedness. And what folks need are our honest and true radical transparency, and also not as radical transparency but the acceptance of the process. Being or learning how to be okay, in that dirty mug over like, Sandstorm that that is because, um, before we get into that whole journey, take it back of what was that switch for you that led you from the career that you were in that switched of? I want to go off on my own?

Petra Vega 16:09
Yeah. So I think that that was something that I wanted to bring us in. Thank you for asking that question that I was like, I wasn’t like, let me go be an entrepreneur. Right? That really for me that I was like existing in the world. And I got connected to this training group, and someone was looking for some support around values and being able to not just have these thoughts and things that they were thinking, but to really live out. And I’m like, on the bonnet that that I was just like, I saw a request. And I’m like, Oh, I can move people from like, oh, I write I read a whole bunch of shit. I care about something. But how does it look like in my daily practice, how do I protect it for this person was on anti racism, and I’m like, This is my shit. Let’s do that. That I was like, oh, people will pay me for this thing. And so just like did the stumbling of like, oh, this could be this could be a service, like people are interested in something that I’m like, oh, yeah, like, my nonprofit job will pay me for all of these things. But there’s like, there’s other ways for me to make money and still do something that I like, care about. And it’s important to me, like, that’s possible. And so I’m someone who’s like, I don’t want to leave the house. Like I’m really trying to figure out all the ways not to leave the house. away. Right. And I like that. And I care about social justice, which I’m like, some of that work is on the streets. And so I’ve been trying to figure out like, what is my place and movement? Where can I be of service? And so the thing that so I had that inclination of like, Oh, I know that I have skills and services that could be helpful. I want to not leave the house. And I want to be supportive of movement. And so how can I do that? And the thing that pushed me was just like a fucked up workplace, which is a lot of the reason that people also move to entrepreneurship. I know that a lot, but like some people, right, it’s like, no,

Tiffany Hervas 17:56
we’re in a renaissance era where people are literally just going off on their own leaving the job. Security of that job, whatever that looks like. himself.

Petra Vega 18:06
Yeah, they’re like, fuck that. I’m like, I could be secure, but I’m traumatized. You know, fucking respect me, y’all. Y’all. Are we

Tiffany Hervas 18:12
not even given up fire? You could be like, go for anything happening on Twitter? What 50 or 90%? Of the what?

Petra Vega 18:23
And the compliance team? Did you read about that? I was telling. I was like this why? And this is why people need I can’t I can’t Oh my god. But I write in some, and it’s like a leadership coach that I’m like, what are people doing? Yeah. And how are people responding and meeting? How do you Yeah, right. And so mostly just like, how do people define leadership? What does that look like? And that’s why I like speak to like, Well, my leadership is from the ground, right? And so really, like, my stuff is like, how are you being responsive to your people, right, and your people as an entrepreneur, maybe your clients and maybe your online community, whatever that is, but like, what’s the direction of that? Particularly as we think about like, what’s the relationship? Right? And I’m like, is it transactional? Do people only get you when they pay you for some is what are the ways that we’re challenging that in a way that I’m like, I don’t have all figured out but I have thoughts about

Tiffany Hervas 19:13
the right and like, honest about it, like if I was to give that relationship and be honest with him the first

Petra Vega 19:20
transparency that I’m like, I think we would just be better to be clear, right? And so the thing that better yeah, better that the thing that pushed me right was like I was clear about what I wanted a job and my employers were unclear around what they would they would they could do. So then I I started right sizing my participation and people don’t like that shit. And so now it’s called Quiet quitting. Very interesting. So then I had to make a decision that I was like, Okay, I’m not gonna go and when am I gonna go and when is that going to be in integrity with my timing and what I cared about? And so for me, I was talking to someone around the They want to leave their job too. They just had like a Spark Session with his like, buy one time coaching session, and there and I was like, What do you want? They’re like, why don’t want to work here. And I’m like back to like, we’re not gonna work there. And they’re like, but I can’t like I can’t quit, and I’m gonna be poor or right then I’m like they’re already. And I was like, nobody. So you need to quit tomorrow. But like, what do you want to do you want to leave and like, then we can create plans for that, and figuring out like, right, because we are people who, if you work in nonprofits, you probably give a shit about the people that you care about. If you work in a social impact organization, or business or whatever. You got cold turkey. Great. Yeah. But it’s like, when’s the timing though, right. And so for me, I figured out my timing, and then I was like this tighten up my loose ends. I like close all my relationship. And I was like, let me do this entrepreneur thing. And here we are six months later. So for

Tiffany Hervas 20:49
six months, we still figured it out. And we’re here. What is one of the biggest accomplishments that you’ve had since opening six months ago?

Petra Vega 20:58
Yeah. So Oh, my God, yes. Hashtag Metro leave the house, I need to put that on all of my caches. I’m like, Oh, yeah. I want to make change and not leave the house. I’m like, like, it’s me. I’m your coach. Um, I think the thing that I am most proud of, I’ll share two baby ones. Because I know we’re gonna do like, 30 minutes, I’ll be thoughtful of time. One is that I feel stronger now than when I first started that I’m like, why am I keep going? That I know that for sure. And so it’s like, that feels good to know. Versus like, there’s a, I’ve heard that in the first few years of entrepreneurship. It’s like, fuck that. You’re like, I’m not doing this. Not doing this. Shit. Yeah, I’m over it. And I’m like, oh, yeah, I’ve been through that a few a few times over now. But this is at a point that I’m like, Oh, now, this is just me figuring out what iterations this is gonna work. But we got to do this. And so that feels good. There’s an accomplishment. And then the other thing that I think that for those of us who are like, came into entrepreneurship, because we had something that we knew could be helpful to people, but to not have any, any understanding around business, or selling or any of that other stuff. It’s also fairly important that I think that accomplishment for me is me remembering that like, I’m fucking good at what I do. Right? And so that’s, that’s really that, you know, you see me that I’m like, I’m fucking good at what I do.

Tiffany Hervas 22:29
Video alone, will already know how good you are. And how you speak in the message that you speak in alignment. somatically, it’s just it exudes, it comes through. He can.

Petra Vega 22:41
Yeah, it’s I think naming that for myself. Because it can be hard, because you’re like, particularly, and I had a conversation with my friend, I think it was yesterday, I was putting some stuff that’s like, oh, when you if people aren’t buying to the degree that you’d like, or if you’re not getting some kind of attention, or love on posting on social media stuff, or if you’re like, I’m putting my stuff out, but nothing is working, quote, unquote, working because of all these metrics that you can forget. But you’re like, No, you actually really good at what you do is this other shit that you’re trying to figure out? That’s just like, that’s just part of the game. And so I think it’s just like, how do you not forget that like, while you’re still getting what you do, which is the thing that you’re offering for people to pay you for? There’s all this other shit, but you’re also in the process of figuring out and that’s okay, that sounds like saying that, for me saying that for anyone who hears this that needed to hear it.

Tiffany Hervas 23:27
Right? Like, you’re, you’re good at what you do. And also we’re trying to figure it out. And I that long standing belief that nobody actually knows what they’re doing, like literally googling everything on sight unseen, right? And so we actually understand it, internalize it able to teach it and and then we’re like, okay, I know this. Yeah. But at the same time, we’re always learning and unlearning things are the same. So that’s, that’s something to always sit with. I want to move through. Because we talked a lot about the struggles. And we talked a lot about the roller coasters of entrepreneurship and a lot of the things that we need to sit through and learn as a beginning owners. And so what in what you’ve learned are the top three things that you could leave folks with as tangible of anybody looking to start transition or just build their business?

Petra Vega 24:20
Mm hmm. And I think probably I like I think you and I were talking about this, right? It’s just like, be curious about everything that you have access to your writing that you’re like, someone who’s like, I’d be all in all the files. I learned how to do lots of stuff. I won’t read it. Yeah. And I’m like,

Tiffany Hervas 24:39
DocuSign, I’ll be like, how’s the format? What does this look like? What is the margin? Credit, like critiquing and like really observing everything? Yes.

Petra Vega 24:47
Yeah. And I’m like, and I wasn’t in those spaces, but I’m like, Damn, that would have been a plus. That would have been a plus to just like, what are all the things that could be learning? Because I’m someone that I’m like, if I don’t give a shit, it’s real hard for me. I can’t and I only give a shit about Like three things, which is why I’m good at those three, leadership change and healing, I feel like I’m like, I feel

Tiffany Hervas 25:10
those skills, and most people call themselves the leaders or directors or whatever, like, people that are responsible aren’t in charge of many different things that involve many different people yet don’t have any idea on how to lead.

Petra Vega 25:24
So fair. Yeah. So I think that but then it’s like, if you if you can have access or can amplify your curiosity, so you can look at some things that you maybe you weren’t kind of looking at before, that would be helpful. I think, again, just like you taking stock of how do you how do you make change, right, versus like, using someone else’s mode of change, that I was listening to someone else’s live earlier today that people are like, and especially in entrepreneurship, I know, you and I are different spaces, right? Cuz I’m in the coaching space. And so I’m like, it’s a lot of like, you work with the first set of maybe a group of people, and are to get to where you’re going versus you are delivering, like workshops, and you’re working with other businesses who pay you, right. So also like the structure piece, but just thinking about like, Okay, if you know that you want to have a particular kind of business, think about like, how have you done stuff before? How have you done change before? To give kind of an example that I was like, there’s someone that I was like, working with that she had to make a decision around these three job opportunities that were like equally fantastic, right. And so we did some, like pro conferences. I love those. We did some like, is there some negotiations and comparisons of things? And then and then that was like, it didn’t get us closer to figuring out what she wanted. And then at the end, I was just like, we just went through all the times, like, how do you make decisions? And she was like, I pray on it. I’m like, go pray, go. Write that some people. Something like why usually, I’d have to talk to like 10 people about it, go talk to 10 people about the thing talk to like, think about what are the ways to actually get you closer to where you’re trying to go and use that because I think that part of entrepreneurship, too. And it’s hard again, if you want to do something that’s not like super mainstream, or there’s a way that you want to do it this a little bit more like a radical or different or whatever, that you you don’t, it’s gonna be hard, right? Because you’re going to be going into just like any other profession, that’s like, everybody needs to be a circle to fit. If you want to be successful, you need to be a circle, but you like, I’m a square, though,

Tiffany Hervas 27:26
are triangles, like why angles, you

Petra Vega 27:29
know, and so you having a better sense of like, okay, what shape what works for you? What doesn’t work for you tapping into that stuff? I think you have a better sense of like, what’s gonna work right? And really like that the support you’re looking for? They really like do you like that person? Do you like that person? Does it seem like they are knowledgeable and really being able to see like, okay, can Can I can I see that this will be helpful versus like, what my Am I being tricked in some kind of way? I think it’s like the discernment piece, which is like, we’re always working on that. But I think that’s a big one. Because I think that we can like Google something and be like, This is the first thing on Google, it must be the best thing. And I’m like, I don’t know, like the thing that you might be on page 10. You know, yeah. And so I think the last thing that I would offer that I’m like, feeling into now and I’ll give a shout out around, it’s finding a community that I really like, don’t believe this can be done. I don’t think anything can be done alone. But really finding like a group of people that you jive with, and you can talk to and I’m excited about the community that I found now called Success revolution society, that is trying to do groups of businesses in a different kind of way that I’m like, I’m really into that I’m really into that, that I think that there’s other people selling different kinds of communities and groups and connections and stuff. But I think it’s really like finding finding like minded people and not that y’all need to focus and do the same kind of person. But there is a there’s like a sameness. I don’t even know that I can fully like, articulate, but I think that like entrepreneurship can be really lonely, particularly if you’re if you’re like, if you’re trying to just be like a solopreneur whatever, that it’s like, who are some people that you can talk to who I think will be, again, are into radical transparency. They’re like, You should it’s not going well. It’s hard to

Tiffany Hervas 29:25
as parents see. Wow. Yeah. It’s hard. Yeah. I think that for me, I would say is one of the aspects of being an entrepreneur a feeling or business owner feeling alone in the work and especially if you’re doing anti capitalist or any type of justice, where I go social justice work, right, like that kind of language or healing work. It’s just different. It’s not like a regular order. You are trying to actively make change in an area where folks are have always been streamlines into a narrow I need view of what transaction and what works and what sells and like a certain way to do things and we’re just not for me. We’re not doing it. Yeah. It’s hard. So finding communities and finding people that are like minded, like, definitely So folks, I dropped it in the chat but success revolution society, look into it join. Join a group where you feel supported.

Petra Vega 30:26
Yeah, yeah. Like don’t I think that it’s just like, don’t buy into the hype that you have to do it alone. Yeah, it’s more so like, I think from for me what it’s been for me, I’m like, I need a home. And I think I talked to you about like, for

Tiffany Hervas 30:41
a while, and you keep checking in on me Do you have a home yet?

Petra Vega 30:45
I really believe in that, right that I’m like, as a as a former organizer, but like, always have the heart of organizing that I’m like, oh, where’s the place that I nestled? Where’s my political home? I got my home home. It’s my home and I gotta leave the house. Right? But I’m like, where are the other places that feel like home? Like where my friendships that feel like home? Where are my best friendships that feel like home? And then I’m like, Oh, how many places can I have home so that when my home in my own brain is like cluttered and mess? Storm like we’re whose loss is home? Can I visit to be like, it’s okay, it’s raining over there. But here we have golfing, or we got tea like this.

Tiffany Hervas 31:20
It’s I love that whole visual journey you just took me on? I feel so at home.

Petra Vega 31:31
I know. Are we gonna? Are we gonna do like, are we trying to create homes for other people? Are we gonna like loan?

Tiffany Hervas 31:36
Yeah. Okay. So that leads me to my last question. Looking forward to that you’re working on that. You want to let folks know where they can find you. Like all the things?

Petra Vega 31:48
Yeah, I think if people are, yeah, are down with anything that I’m saying. Follow me, follow me. Come say hi, or follow me, I’m gonna come say hi. Because I do. I’m like, I’m trying to have my peoples close. And I’m a slide up and everybody’s deal to be like, Hi, who are you? Because I’m like, I care. I’m like, I don’t, I don’t want this to just be a one way kind of deal. So I’m gonna say hi, you could say hi, as well can follow me. And that I’m cooking up a group program right now that I’m probably going to announce on social media next week. But you and I have also been talking offline that we might be cooking up a little some some that I feel that I imaginable feel like this, like what this engagement was looking like just being like, here’s radical transparency and practice

Tiffany Hervas 32:32
it, let it serve as another home specifically for folks who aren’t entrepreneurs for business, a founder, founding a home somewhere. And so yeah, I’m talking all things business, but also holding space for for folks who are in this work of change and making an impact. And doing client centered work, human centered work, that looks like in whatever field of industry that you are working in as a business owner. This base feels lonely in general, like it’s hard to read in here. If you feel like you’re the only one out here doing something, or feeling that you’re putting in so much and you’re not getting anything in return. So we definitely want to hold space for anybody on this journey or seeking to be in this journey and looking for support. We’re here because we’re in it. Yeah,

Petra Vega 33:19
we try and like and also like, if anything resonated. You haven’t commented, thank you. I see you over here. Leslie, just he was up in here, Jennifer was in here. But if it resonated, let us know you are here.

Tiffany Hervas 33:34
Please feel free to share this with any other business owners or anybody that you think would benefit from hearing from this. I’m gonna save it. I’m going to record it, transcribe it, like all the things and it will be saved for y’all to visit again. I’m Petra, you are my heart. I appreciate you so much. I really am so excited for the offerings that we’re going to be coming out with. So Y’all stay tuned. Follow, share all the things and also share your stories to know that you’re not alone in this. We’re here. So November is entrepreneurship month. And thank you, Petra for being our first guest ya bye

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